The Grove Podcast The Grove Podcast Streaming from Passion City Church, the Grove Podcast is designed to encourage women to become ROOTED in the unfailing Word of God, to choose to FLOURISH where we’re planted, to walk in FREEDOM in Christ and truly live, and to offer our lives as SHADE to the people who intersect our paths in our city. The Grove Podcast is hosted by Shelley Giglio and other women of The Grove. Programs


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    June 19, 2020 Body Language :: Dr. Anita Phillips & Christine Caine

    Today’s episode of the Grove Podcast was graciously given to us by Christine Caine and Dr. Anita Philips. In response to the recent rise in racial tensions stemming from the media coverage of injustice toward Black Americans, many necessary conversations have emerged among people of all color.One of the most helpful conversations that we have observed is this one between Christine and Dr. Anita. It is raw and full of humility and grace. Dr. Anita helps white believers better understand the past and current realities of their black brothers and sisters, while giving helpful insight into the differences of our cultures and communities.Christine Caine is a long-time friend of the Grove and is kind enough to come and preach and encourage us year after year. In addition to speaking and writing, she runs Propel Women as well as the A-21 Campaign with her husband Nick. Dr. Anita Phillips is a therapist, mental health advocate, life coach, and minister dedicated to encouraging, educating, and empowering communities. This conversation was recorded live on Instagram and is used with their permission.

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    May 20, 2020 Discipline to Delight :: Ben Stuart

    In today's episode, Emily Vogeltanz interviews Ben Stuart, pastor of Passion City Church D.C. They discuss spending time with God and His Word, and how that journey can go from a checked box, to really intimate and fruitful time.  This conversation is helpful, practical and encouraging, with something for everyone--from the lifelong Christian to the brand new believer.  To hear more from Ben, check out the Passion City D.C. podcast as well as 

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    May 6, 2020 Humility is Agreeing with Reality :: Jackie Hill Perry

    Today's episode captures a monumental moment in Grove history!  On May 4, 2020, the Grove went LIVE online for the first time ever! We had the privilege of hosting Jackie Hill Perry as our special surprise guest that evening, and this episode brings you the compelling conversation she shared with Shelley Giglio. Chock-full of real talk, they cover self-denial, holiness, and true, gut-level accountability.  If you want to see more from Jackie, check out and be sure to stay tuned with all things Grove at!

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    April 29, 2020 Friend of Jesus :: Brooke Ligertwood

    In today's episode, Shelley Giglio is joined by Brooke Ligertwood of Hillsong Worship, as they discuss what it looks like to really want to know Jesus, how to celebrate others while being everything we are intended to be, as well as some books that you might want to add to your shelves! This conversation will leave you wanting to lean into Jesus more closely. For more from Brooke, check out Hillsong Worship from wherever you get your music!

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    April 22, 2020 The Best of Times, the Worst of Times :: Shelley and Louie Giglio

    Today, Shelley Giglio sits down with her husband and pastor of Passion City Church, Louie Giglio, to discuss life and ministry in the time of Covid19.  At the time of this recording, the world was in a mostly quarantined state, as a global pandemic was taking lives, devastating economies, and forcing people into a more isolated existence.  Louie and Shelley get candid about the Church’s response, some things they wish might have been different, and how we continue to fix our eyes on God, who has proven Himself faithful throughout history, and hasn’t taken His eyes off of us yet. Check out as well as for more talks and resources from Louie.

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    April 15, 2020 The Good, the Hard, the Hopeful :: Lysa Terkeurst

    Today we are going back into the Grove archives to give you an incredible message from our dear friend Lysa Terkeurst that she brought at a Grove gathering in May of 2016.  She unpacks a lot of her early life story and how God proved Himself good in every season.  This is a timeless message that we trust will encourage your spirit today! To hear more from Lysa, stay tuned in with her on Instagram and find her resources at Proverbs 31 Ministries.

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    April 3, 2020 Creating from the Mystery :: Joel Houston

    Today we have the privilege of hearing from Joel Houston of Hillsong United.  Joel is a husband, father, worship leader, prolific songwriter and builder of the Church. In this episode, we get to hear a candid conversation he shared with Shelley Giglio as they come around what it was like growing up in church, being surrounded by strong women, and the journey of his creative process.  Be sure to check out music from United wherever you download or stream!

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    March 9, 2020 Nothing Just Happens :: Bianca Juarez Olthoff

    In this week's episode, we welcome Bianca Juarez Olthoff to the Grove Podcast! Bianca and her husband Matt are church planters in California.  Bianca is also an author and speaker and recently joined us for a Grove gathering at Passion City Church.  This episode was recorded live from that evening as she unpacks the book of Ruth and how everything in our lives is divinely purposed.  Bianca is fun, joyful and passionate and we know you'll enjoy hearing from her today!

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    February 24, 2020 She Knows :: DawnCheré Wilkerson

    Today’s episode features a powerful talk from DawnCheré Wilkerson, recorded live at the Grove.  DawnCheré and her husband Rich are pastors of Vous Church in Miami, FL.  In this message, she challenges us to take confidence as we see God as our strength, our song and our salvation. She speaks with joy, power and conviction and we know you will be encouraged! Check out for more from DawnCheré.

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    February 10, 2020 Invisible Wheelchairs :: Katherine Wolf

    Today’s episode was recorded live at the Grove with our dear friend Katherine Wolf.  Katherine survived a massive brain stem stroke many years ago and endured tumultuous years of recovery, but has learned to love the story that God has written for her and her family.  Katherine and her husband Jay travel the country sharing their message of hope, and just released a new book, Suffer Strong.  In this talk from the Grove, Katherine shares the message of this book and offers incredible perspective on the “invisible wheelchairs” we all carry, and how to choose to celebrate in the midst of struggle.  Check out for more from Katherine and Jay, and be sure to order Suffer Strong from your favorite bookseller!

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    January 20, 2020 Declarations for a Decade :: Natalie Grant

    We launched into 2020 with a special January Grove gathering at Passion City Church.  We surprised the audience with special guests Natalie Grant and her husband Bernie Herms. This episode was recorded live from the evening as Shelley Giglio sat down with Natalie on stage for a fun, honest and encouraging conversation around music, parenting, social justice and staying grounded in the Word of God.  Natalie is a Grammy-nominated, Dove Award-winning artist with one of the most powerful voices of our generation.  Listen to her music from wherever you stream or download, and check out for more resources and tour information.

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    December 16, 2019 Cows in Cadillacs :: David Crowder

    Today’s episode gives us a rare peek into the mind of David Crowder and the fun and deep, long-standing friendship he shares with Shelley Giglio.  They sit down for a conversation that runs the gamut of Instagram, innovation, the beauty that comes out of tragic loss, and why it shouldn’t be that hard to talk to strangers about Jesus.  You can track along with Crowder at  Check out his latest album “I Know a Ghost” wherever you listen to music!

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    November 25, 2019 For Every Season :: Jess Connolly

    Today's episode features a conversation between Emily Vogeltanz and Jess Connolly.  Jess is a wife, mom, speaker, author and church planter, and heads up a collective of women called Go and Tell Gals.  In this episode, Jess and Emily come around the 4 anchors of the Grove: Rooted, Flourish, Freedom and Shade in an honest, relatable and encouraging conversation.  Be sure to check out for more resources from Jess.

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    November 11, 2019 Hope Lives :: Louie Giglio, Shelley Giglio, Emily Vogeltanz, Hannah Brencher, & Hannah Rinehart

    In this episode, we hear from Louie and Shelley Giglio - pastors of Passion City Church, Emily Vogeltanz - Global Ambassador for The Grove, author Hannah Brencher, and Atlanta-based Licensed Professional Counselor Hannah Rinehart as they discuss finding victory while fighting mental illness. They define what it looks like to deal with a mental illness, discuss some of their own personal struggles with these challenges, and explain what is most helpful when walking with a loved one through the darkness. This episode was recorded live at the Grove in Atlanta, GA. If you are interested in more resources from Hannah Brencher, check out To find more from Louie Giglio, visit If you would like more resources for dealing with mental illness, visit 

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    October 28, 2019 Soaring to Glory :: Susan Hunt

    In this episode, Susan Hunt shares decades-worth of wisdom gained from a faithful life of following Jesus. She uses the story of scripture to unpack the Gospel and help us toward being a life-giver, not a life-taker. Susan has been married to Gene Hunt, a retired pastor, for 56 years. They have 3 children and 13 grandchildren. She is the former Coordinator of Women’s Ministries for the Presbyterian Church in America, and the author of several books for women and children. This talk was recorded live at the Grove in Atlanta, GA. Click here for some beautiful notes from her message!

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    October 14, 2019 Strength to Submit :: Christine Caine

    Today we hear from our dear friend Christine Caine as she sits down for a vulnerable conversation with Shelley Giglio and Emily Vogeltanz.  They take a deep dive into her marriage to Nick, her role as mom to their two daughters, and why she continues to stand in her calling, even through hurt and disappointment.  Check out for more on her ministry and resources, including her latest Bible study, 20/20. 

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    September 30, 2019 The Best Fighting Words :: Sadie Robertson

    As Sadie looks forward to an exciting season of being engaged to be married and pursuing God’s plans for her life, she and Shelley talk about celebrating those closest to you, keeping purpose over performance, and how to fight for one another every day.

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    September 16, 2019 The Messy Middle :: Lysa TerKeurst

    Today as we kick off Season Two of The Grove Podcast, Lysa TerKeurst joins Shelley for a beautiful + challenging conversation on disillusionment in the middle of life’s disappointments, courage to walk through the dark, and how to take a powerful step today toward true forgiveness. 

    Lysa is president of Proverbs 31 Ministries and the New York Times best-selling author of It’s Not Supposed to Be This Way, Uninvited, The Best Yes, and 19 other books. We learn so much from Lysa in this episode as she generously shares wisdom from her personal experience.

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    August 19, 2019 The Friendcast Episode :: Featuring Women of the Grove

    Today's summer pop-up episode features stories from our very own Grove Podcast listeners in our first ever Friendcast! Back in the Spring, we asked our listeners to send in mini-podcast episodes sharing Jesus stories and chatting with the women who inspire them. Today we will hear from four of those submitted episodes! You'll hear women in various seasons of life sharing stories of life transition, the challenges of motherhood, struggles through dark seasons, and how Jesus carried each one and used His Church to surround and support.

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    June 4, 2019 Stronger Together :: Shelley Giglio, Courtney Duke, Angela Richardson & Kerri Stanfill

    Today we are wrapping up Season 1 of the Grove Podcast with one of our most powerful episodes yet. We get to hear from Shelley Giglio and some of her dearest friends - Courtney Pray Duke, Angela Richardson, and Kerri Stanfill - as they recount the days surrounding the sudden and tragic death of Courtney’s husband, Andrew Pray. No one ever feels prepared to walk through something like this, and we rarely feel equipped to help others as they walk a road we haven’t walked. But as these women share, it’s clear to see how they were each given exactly what they needed for each moment. They talk about listening to the Holy Spirit when He calls us to step outside of our comfortable norms, and they give the most beautiful picture of Gospel community through their unexpected relationships. You’ll hear the redemption story of what they have seen and you’ll be so encouraged to keep pushing through as you walk alongside those who are hurting and to hold on to hope in your own dark season.
    This episode helps us launch our summer of the Grove Friendcast as we are asking YOU to share podcast episodes with us! Just grab a girlfriend or someone who inspires you and record a 5-10 minute mini-podcast episode and send it our way. We want to hear your Jesus stories - how you’ve been inspired to give shade to people in your path, how you choose to flourish where you’re planted, and how you’ve been set free! Check out for more details on how to submit your episode. And we’ll see you in September for season 2 of the Grove Podcast!

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    May 21, 2019 Unexpected: the Path to the Promise :: DawnChere´ Wilkerson

    In today’s episode of the Grove Podcast, we have a dear friend of the Grove and Passion City Church, DawnChere´ Wilkerson. She and her husband Rich serve as pastors of Vous Church in Miami, FL. DawnChere´ joined us for our last Grove gathering of the season and brought an incredibly powerful and encouraging message. Today she sits down with Shelley Giglio and discusses her heart for building the Church, the rhythms of working with your husband, and walking through infertility - and other seasons of waiting - with hope and expectation.
    To learn more about the Wilkersons and Vous, check out

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    May 7, 2019 Trained in Faith :: Maya Moore

    Today we’ve got Maya Moore on the Grove Podcast! Maya is quite possibly the best female basketball player of all time. In 2017, Sports Illustrated called her “the greatest winner in the history of women’s basketball” after winning her 4th WNBA title. She’s got several MVP awards as well as Olympic gold medals. But she also has a huge heart for activism and is shaping the culture around her in countless ways. Maya is an all-around phenomenal human and serves faithfully at Passion City Church in the worship choir most weekends. Today she sits down with Shelley Giglio and shares about being raised by a single mom, discovering her abilities, having perspective through great success and how Jesus has carried her through it all. We trust you will be so encouraged after hearing her story, and you’ll want to be sure to learn more about her social justice campaign at

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    April 23, 2019 Suffering Strong :: Katherine Wolf

    Today on the Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with a dear friend of the Grove, Katherine Wolf. On April 21, 2008, Katherine suffered a massive brain stem stroke, which could have left her paralyzed or in a vegetative state, but the Lord had different plans for their family. Although she is still severely disabled, and struggles with many harsh side effects of her stroke and the events that followed, she and her husband Jay and their two boys have learned to thrive in their story. Katherine and Jay recently moved their family cross-country from Los Angeles to Atlanta and are a part of the Passion City Church family.
    In today’s episode, she shares with Shelley how she has come to love her story, how God has healed her heart and given her the ability to “hope while you cope.” They talk about raising boys, the challenges of watching them grow in their understanding of her disability, and even relate to each other as being daughters of dads living with cancer. It’s an honor to have her share with us today, especially in the wake of the 11th anniversary of the day that would mark her life forever.
    To learn more about their ministry, their book Hope Heals and their Hope Heals family camps, visit

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    April 9, 2019 Flourish :: A Mentoring Journey

    Are you a young woman seeking guidance? An experienced woman hoping to share your wisdom with those a few steps behind? A small group leader looking to begin a mentoring program? You’ll love this episode of the Grove Podcast! Today you’ll hear from Shelley Giglio and some other amazing women from Passion City Church as they discuss the scriptural calling to mentorship. They share their own stories of how mentoring has shaped their lives and the real change that can occur when the truth is held up like a mirror by someone who is committed to walking alongside you.
    They also unpack the new Flourish mentoring curriculum coming out in May of this year that will be available wherever Christian resources are sold! This year-long mentoring journey created in partnership with LifeWay + Passion City Church will help you establish strong relationships between both mentors and mentees as you dig into understanding God’s truth and love through His Word together. Be sure to check out for more tools on mentoring and starting your own groups.

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    March 19, 2019 Goats, Gratitude, and Real Talk :: Lisa Harper

    Today on the Grove Podcast, we have our very dear friend Lisa Harper. Lisa is a speaker, an author, and one of the most phenomenal Bible teachers we know; but she is proudest of the title “mama" to her daughter Missy, who she adopted from Haiti in 2014. Today she sits down in a candid chat with Shelley Giglio, as they discuss the pain of singleness, the challenges of motherhood and how she maintains a deep gratitude to the Lord in the midst of it all.
    To learn more about Lisa, and to access her many books and Bible studies, check out

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    March 5, 2019 Worthy of the Calling :: Emily Vogeltanz

    In today’s episode, we’ll hear a powerful talk—recorded live at the Grove!—from Emily Vogeltanz, as she teaches and challenges us around what it looks like to be holy as Jesus is holy. Se unpacks several passages from Ephesians and encourages us not to cheapen the gift of the cross by living a life of less, but to step fully into our calling, embracing holiness. Emily serves on our Passion City Church staff team, and is one of the original members of the Grove Team. She’s a phenomenal teacher, rich in wisdom and insight, and we trust you will find this talk helpful today!

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    February 19, 2019 Do You Want to Be Healed? :: Christine Caine

    Today’s episode is a powerful talk from our dear friend, Christine Caine. She and her family are extended family to Passion City Church and the Grove and we are always honored to have them in the House. Today, Christine unpacks a passage from John 5 and asks the question, “Do you WANT to be healed?” It will leave you considering what it looks like to get off your proverbial “mat” and walk in true freedom.
    Today’s message was recorded live at the Grove.

    Christine Caine is a wife, mother, international speaker and author. She and her husband Nick founded Propel Women, as well as their anti-human trafficking organization, the A21 campaign. To find out more about Christine Caine and her books and other resources, check out

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    February 5, 2019 Clothed in Dignity :: Stories from the Grove Swap

    Join us today as we journey into the Grove Swap! The Grove Swap is an annual clothing exchange that happens in January at Passion City Church. Throughout the Fall, we have women from our House bring beautiful pieces from their own closets - clothes, shoes, purses, jewelry - and we carefully curate them and transform our building into a beautiful boutique where women can come and shop for FREE! Today we’ll hear some of the stories that came from the night, right as they were happening. We’ll also get a behind the scenes look at both the vision for our Swap as well as how we do it! Check out for more help on how to put on a clothing swap in your city.

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    January 22, 2019 Running Toward the Roar :: Jennie and Levi Lusko

    In today’s episode, Shelley Giglio sits down with Jennie and Levi Lusko to discuss all things family, ministry, and relationships. The Luskos share candidly about how they met and dated, how their family thrives in the midst of their calling to ministry, and the process of grieving the loss of their precious daughter Lenya. They unpack how they learned not to fear grief, but instead be willing to run toward the thing that seems scary and painful; to reduce its power and allow healing to take place. We know you will find so much encouragement from this episode!
    Check out and to learn more about Jennie and Levi Lusko.

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    January 8, 2019 An Effective Ministry Recipe // Priscilla Shirer

    Priscilla Shirer joins us on the podcast today! Priscilla is a wife, mother, Bible teacher and New York Times bestselling author. In today’s episode, she gives us a recipe for effective ministry. Whether we are called to a stage, a family, corporate job, or school, we have each been given a ministry assignment. She unpacks what it looks like to be called, to receive everything we need for that calling and then to be sent out into our field prepared.
    This talk was recorded live at the Grove.

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    December 18, 2018 Strong Arms, Good Heart :: Louie Giglio

    Passion City Church Lead Pastor, Louie Giglio, unpacks how the Proverbs 31 woman can truly “laugh with no fear of the future” when she believes Jesus is actually walking on her storm. Recorded live at the Grove.

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    December 11, 2018 Recalibrating Christmas :: Shelley Giglio with Mo Isom, Brittany Jones and Allison Dukes

    How can I manage my time better? Am I leaning into my family enough? Can I give more to my job? How do I balance all of this? Does balance even exist? Today’s episode touches on all of these questions and many more as Shelley Giglio sits down with a panel of ladies from Passion City Church who each carry multiple roles and wear many hats. We hope you enjoy this chat with Shelley Giglio, Mo Isom, Brittany Jones and Allison Dukes.

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    December 6, 2018 Silent Nights & Burning Lights :: Jennie & Levi Lusko

    Jennie and Levi Lusko unpack the Gospel message of grace from Genesis 15. Recorded live at the Christmas Grove.

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    December 4, 2018 Stay tuned!

    This week is an incredible week for The Grove as we host thousands of women for The Grove Christmas. If you're a woman in the city of Atlanta, we want to see you! So check out for upcoming Gatherings, and stay tuned for a very special NEW EPISODE this THURSDAY!

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    November 27, 2018 The Seed Life :: Ann Voskamp

    Shelley Giglio and a panel of women from Passion City Church sit down with Ann Voskamp to discuss living a life of gratitude through any circumstance. Recorded live at The Grove.

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    November 20, 2018 It’s Not Supposed to Be This Way :: Lysa TerKeurst

    Shelley Giglio talks with Lysa TerKeurst about walking through an unimaginable pain that inspired her latest book, “It’s Not Supposed to Be This Way”. Recorded in Lysa’s home on the day her book released, November 13, 2018.

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    November 13, 2018 The Proof That We Have Lived :: Katherine Wolf

    Katherine Wolf challenges the women of The Grove to live by the beauty of Galatians 6. This talk was recorded live at the Roxy Theatre in Atlanta as part of our 2017 Christmas Grove. Hosted by Shelley Giglio.

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    November 6, 2018 Layer By Layer :: Shelley Giglio with Hannah Brencher

    Hannah Brencher interviews Shelley Giglio on digging deep with Jesus, simple obedience, and knowing the answer before the question is asked. Recorded live at The Grove from Passion City Church.

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    November 5, 2018 The Grove Podcast Introduction

    Streaming from Passion City Church, the Grove Podcast is designed to encourage women to become ROOTED in the unfailing Word of God, to choose to FLOURISH where we’re planted, to walk in FREEDOM in Christ and truly live, and to offer our lives as SHADE to the people who intersect our paths in our city. The Grove Podcast is hosted by Shelley Giglio and other women of the Grove.