It's been such a while that I've wanted to sit down and talk with David Kinnaman. He's the president of Barna Group, he writes books I ABSOLUTELY LOVE, and he's just brilliant. I love stats and I love talking about faith and I love talking about culture and David brings all those things together in some amazing ways. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one! And you can keep up with their family- https://www.prayforjill.com . . . . . http://anniefdowns.com #thatsoundsfunpodcast ... join in the conversation wherever hashtags are welcome. :)  Thank you to our sponsors of this episode! Prep Dish: all you need to do is text the word “mealplan” to 33777 to get a free week! Grove.co: For a limited time, go to grove.co/soundsfun to receive a FREE FIVE PIECE Cleaning Set from Mrs. Meyer’s and Grove – a THIRTY DOLLAR value!