In today’s episode we chat with Gary Clarke, who is the lead pastor of Hillsong in the UK. He talks about how we, as the Church, need to use the arts to influence and shape the culture around us, and how “seasonal calling” looks attractive, but may not be as valid as we think it is.

Make sure to stick around after the interview for the special segment in Season 3, “Psalms of Ascent”, and join the #100daycreativechallenge as we prepare for Worship & Creative Conference 2018.